Discussion:
Covid jab queues
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Fevric J. Glandules
2021-12-09 20:12:24 UTC
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The last two times round I was in and out in 15 minutes.

This time I arrived at the Grafton to find a queue that was apparently
an hour long.

So I left. Will rebook. Is there anywhere central without massive
queues? Why the queues, anyway? Are they taking walk-ups as well
as people with booked appointments?
The Natural Philosopher
2021-12-09 20:26:03 UTC
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Post by Fevric J. Glandules
The last two times round I was in and out in 15 minutes.
This time I arrived at the Grafton to find a queue that was apparently
an hour long.
So I left. Will rebook. Is there anywhere central without massive
queues? Why the queues, anyway? Are they taking walk-ups as well
as people with booked appointments?
I arrived at mine (Burt st Edmunds) nearly an hour early due to
forgetting the car clock was still on BST...they just said 'we can do
early'; and put me in the short queue.

Its odd because could only get that appointment - then my surgery asked
me to fill in some slot at a more local practivce, but I couldnt as I
was already booked.
NHS has since sent me a text and email telling me to get the booster I
have just had. A bit shambolic.

I've seen a walk in bus in Newmarket, but the NHS website denies its
existence.
*shrug*.
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tony sayer
2021-12-09 21:13:55 UTC
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Post by The Natural Philosopher
Its odd because could only get that appointment - then my surgery asked
me to fill in some slot at a more local practivce, but I couldnt as I
was already booked.
NHS has since sent me a text and email telling me to get the booster I
have just had. A bit shambolic.
I got the impression last time round that the two systems were running
in parallel. The link the surgery sent me offered other locations,
but not the Grafton.
Had my Booster done last week at Saffron Walden nearest other was
Kentford then Stevenage good job I have a car what does an elderly
person do who can't drive?...
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Theo
2021-12-09 21:32:14 UTC
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Post by tony sayer
Post by The Natural Philosopher
Its odd because could only get that appointment - then my surgery asked
me to fill in some slot at a more local practivce, but I couldnt as I
was already booked.
NHS has since sent me a text and email telling me to get the booster I
have just had. A bit shambolic.
I got the impression last time round that the two systems were running
in parallel. The link the surgery sent me offered other locations,
but not the Grafton.
Had my Booster done last week at Saffron Walden nearest other was
Kentford then Stevenage good job I have a car what does an elderly
person do who can't drive?...
I was offered Saffron Walden, Newmarket, Chesterton, St Neots, Peterborough
and quite a number of pharmacies in Bedford. Most several weeks hence - there
was a single slot next day at St Neots so I took it.

Theo
Alan
2021-12-09 21:47:17 UTC
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Post by tony sayer
Post by The Natural Philosopher
Its odd because could only get that appointment - then my surgery asked
me to fill in some slot at a more local practivce, but I couldnt as I
was already booked.
NHS has since sent me a text and email telling me to get the booster I
have just had. A bit shambolic.
I got the impression last time round that the two systems were running
in parallel. The link the surgery sent me offered other locations,
but not the Grafton.
Had my Booster done last week at Saffron Walden nearest other was
Kentford then Stevenage good job I have a car what does an elderly
person do who can't drive?...
In Ely the local GPs were contacting patients and doing the booster, (as
well as the original jabs).

Wife even had flu jab at the same time.
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Fevric J. Glandules
2021-12-10 04:16:08 UTC
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[covid jab]

According to one of my corespondents, there's a chance of
"spontaneous abortions and infertility."

But I'm not going to have an abortion, and I've proven my
fertility just as many times as I want to - heck, I'll go
mad: give me the booster jab. But without making me wait
for an hour in an enclosed space with other people!
Tim Ward
2021-12-10 08:06:48 UTC
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Post by Fevric J. Glandules
But without making me wait
for an hour in an enclosed space with other people!
When I went for my flu vaccination I was expected to wait in the surgery
waiting room with other people. I refused and remained waiting in the
car park and told them to call me when it was my turn. This confused
their system somewhat, but they did call me in the end.
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The Natural Philosopher
2021-12-10 10:49:33 UTC
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Post by tony sayer
Post by The Natural Philosopher
Its odd because could only get that appointment - then my surgery asked
me to fill in some slot at a more local practivce, but I couldnt as I
was already booked.
NHS has since sent me a text and email telling me to get the booster I
have just had. A bit shambolic.
I got the impression last time round that the two systems were running
in parallel. The link the surgery sent me offered other locations,
but not the Grafton.
Had my Booster done last week at Saffron Walden nearest other was
Kentford then Stevenage good job I have a car what does an elderly
person do who can't drive?...
if they cant drive and have no friends and cant afford a taxi they just
die Tony.
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for the voice of the kingdom.

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Stewart Brodie
2021-12-11 02:51:38 UTC
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Post by tony sayer
Post by The Natural Philosopher
Its odd because could only get that appointment - then my surgery asked
me to fill in some slot at a more local practivce, but I couldnt as I
was already booked.
NHS has since sent me a text and email telling me to get the booster I
have just had. A bit shambolic.
I got the impression last time round that the two systems were running
in parallel. The link the surgery sent me offered other locations,
but not the Grafton.
Had my Booster done last week at Saffron Walden nearest other was
Kentford then Stevenage good job I have a car what does an elderly
person do who can't drive?...
I'm not elderly, but I don't drive. I cannot get a booster appointment
anywhere and I've been trying for the past 3 or 4 weeks. I have no chance
of reasonably getting from Cambridge to anywhere the NHS website offers me,
like Stevenage, Saffron Walden or Huntingdon.

Even when those places are offered, there's no dates before late January.
Then when I choose a place and a date, it just says there aren't any
appointment times available after all.

Yet other people say they can book stuff for next week. It's farcical.

I had to take a risk on a one hour bus trip out to Great Shelford last week
for a flu vaccination - multiple buses required both ways, but at least the
7 was almost empty. It was the only place in the Cambridge area that I could
get an appointment.
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Roland Perry
2021-12-11 06:14:49 UTC
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In message <***@ntlworld.com>, at
02:51:38 on Sat, 11 Dec 2021, Stewart Brodie
Post by Stewart Brodie
I'm not elderly, but I don't drive. I cannot get a booster appointment
anywhere and I've been trying for the past 3 or 4 weeks. I have no chance
of reasonably getting from Cambridge to anywhere the NHS website offers me,
like Stevenage, Saffron Walden or Huntingdon.
If it's the same place they opened up in the early days, the Stevenage
site is only half a mile from the station. Huntingdon, and you have the
Guided Bus.
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Roland Perry
Tim Ward
2021-12-11 16:01:06 UTC
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Post by Stewart Brodie
Yet other people say they can book stuff for next week. It's
farcical.
I've got an appointment for next week in Cambridge, but it was booked a
month or two ago. If it involves queuing indoors in a room full of other
people I'll walk away.
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Roland Perry
2021-12-12 07:20:17 UTC
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Post by Tim Ward
Post by Stewart Brodie
Yet other people say they can book stuff for next week. It's
farcical.
I've got an appointment for next week in Cambridge, but it was booked a
month or two ago. If it involves queuing indoors in a room full of other
people I'll walk away.
None of the six jabs we've now had *didn't* involve queuing indoors of
some kind. From corridors at a GP-run health centre, to a large hall
waiting for the "check-in".

Only one has involved a recommendation to wait indoors for 15mins
afterwards (in a typical GP surgery waiting room), the others were
happy that a driver was waiting in the car park for the patient.
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Roland Perry
GC
2021-12-12 18:29:59 UTC
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Post by Roland Perry
Post by Tim Ward
Post by Stewart Brodie
Yet other people say they can book stuff for next week. It's farcical.
I've got an appointment for next week in Cambridge, but it was booked a
month or two ago. If it involves queuing indoors in a room full of other
people I'll walk away.
None of the six jabs we've now had *didn't* involve queuing indoors of
some kind. From corridors at a GP-run health centre, to a large hall
waiting for the "check-in".
Only one has involved a recommendation to wait indoors for 15mins
afterwards (in a typical GP surgery waiting room), the others were
happy that a driver was waiting in the car park for the patient.
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Roland Perry
Fainting is a risk after any injection, though it is generally self-resolving unless you injure yourself by falling over. You should be advised not to drive (or cycle) for 15 minutes after any injection in case you get light-headed or actually faint. If you have someone with you and won't be driving, the risk of coming to serious harm is extremely small.
The requirement to wait for 15 minutes applies for the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines. They both contain a stabilizing ingredient that can, very rarely, evoke an anaphylactic reaction. Even if you didn't have a reaction with previous exposure, that doesn't guarantee that you won't react on a subsequent exposure. Anaphylaxis is life-threatening if not treated promptly and the vaccination centres and GP surgeries have the drugs, equipment and staff that can prevent deaths. Hence the National Protocols for Pfizer and Moderna COVID vaccines, under which the vast majority of these vaccinations are being delivered, include a minimum of 15 minutes wait post-vaccination in an area that is staffed and equipped to save lives in these rare cases.
Brian Morrison
2021-12-12 19:45:20 UTC
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On Sun, 12 Dec 2021 18:59:12 +0000
Yes, I know all that, which is why it's surprising that in 5/6 of our
jabs they didn't follow that protocol.
It appears from many reports over the last year that a lot of nurses and
doctors are very badly briefed on the mRNA jab characteristics in
general, most appear not to know that they are still on emergency use
authorisation which makes fully informed consent difficult to achieve.
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Tim Ward
2021-12-11 18:26:00 UTC
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I took one look at the  '15 minutes to  wait before leaving', and
decided that in a room full of other people I'd rather take the .01%
chance of passing out in the car
Too bloody right.
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Mark Goodge
2021-12-11 20:43:40 UTC
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On Sat, 11 Dec 2021 16:37:16 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
I got my jab at the Grafton on Tuesday by simply walking up, but it may
be that I was lucky with the timing. At about 11:00 am there was about
10 people ahead of my in the 'grab-a-jab' queue, which was interleaved
with a similar amount of people in the appointments line. That esulted
in about 15 minutes wait time, 5-10 processing time and 15 minutes to
wait before leaving, so done before noon.
I took one look at the '15 minutes to wait before leaving', and
decided that in a room full of other people I'd rather take the .01%
chance of passing out in the car, but felt good enough to drive off and
do the supermarket run, by which time the 15 minutes had elapsed.
If you passed out in the car from an allergic reaction (which is what it
would be, it's not a check for side-effects pr se) then you'd probably
die before anyone spotted you. If you had an allergic reaction in the
waiting room then you could be treated immediately and would almost
certainly survive.

It's still your choice, obviously. But you need to frame it correctly.

Mark
GC
2021-12-13 15:57:35 UTC
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Post by Mark Goodge
On Sat, 11 Dec 2021 16:37:16 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
I got my jab at the Grafton on Tuesday by simply walking up, but it may
be that I was lucky with the timing. At about 11:00 am there was about
10 people ahead of my in the 'grab-a-jab' queue, which was interleaved
with a similar amount of people in the appointments line. That esulted
in about 15 minutes wait time, 5-10 processing time and 15 minutes to
wait before leaving, so done before noon.
I took one look at the '15 minutes to wait before leaving', and
decided that in a room full of other people I'd rather take the .01%
chance of passing out in the car, but felt good enough to drive off and
do the supermarket run, by which time the 15 minutes had elapsed.
If you passed out in the car from an allergic reaction (which is what it
would be, it's not a check for side-effects pr se) then you'd probably
die before anyone spotted you. If you had an allergic reaction in the
waiting room then you could be treated immediately and would almost
certainly survive.
Well actually I asked the pharmacist giving me the injection what people
has issues with and he said 'low blood pressure and fainting as a result
of shock'
In short anxiety, nit allergy.
I know enough about allergic reactions to lean on the horn at least.
Post by Mark Goodge
It's still your choice, obviously. But you need to frame it correctly.
I did.
You now have the information I was given.
Post by Mark Goodge
Mark
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Yes, that's the sort of thing I say when I'm vaccinating and someone asks why there is a waiting period. It is less off-putting to many people than "a very small risk of a life-threatening allergic reaction"! Fainting *is* much more common than allergies, especially in younger age groups, but it isn't the reason for the 15 minute wait specified in the national protocols.
Brian Morrison
2021-12-13 16:25:56 UTC
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On Mon, 13 Dec 2021 07:57:35 -0800 (PST)
Post by GC
It is less off-putting to many people than "a very small risk of a life-threatening allergic reaction"!
So these people are not fully informed of the risks then?
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Brian Morrison

"I am not young enough to know everything"
Oscar Wilde
Tim Ward
2021-12-13 16:27:06 UTC
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Post by GC
Yes, that's the sort of thing I say when I'm vaccinating and someone
asks why there is a waiting period. It is less off-putting to many
people than "a very small risk of a life-threatening allergic
reaction"! Fainting *is* much more common than allergies, especially
in younger age groups, but it isn't the reason for the 15 minute wait
specified in the national protocols.
So, to help us make informed decisions, what's the risk of a
life-threatening allergic reaction, so that we can compare that with,
what, the almost certainty of catching covid from sitting in a room full
of people?

I can cope with standing up in the cold outside for fifteen minutes
(though I appreciate that not everybody can do that) - perhaps that's
what I'd best do? If I wait outside within sight of the staff on the
door they can come and get me if I fall over.
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John Aldridge
2021-12-13 16:36:26 UTC
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Post by Tim Ward
So, to help us make informed decisions, what's the risk of a
life-threatening allergic reaction, so that we can compare that with,
what, the almost certainty of catching covid from sitting in a room full
of people?
I quick Google finds this...

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7002e1.htm

21 out of 1.8 million. It refers to first doses though.
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John
The Natural Philosopher
2021-12-13 17:27:59 UTC
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Post by John Aldridge
Post by Tim Ward
So, to help us make informed decisions, what's the risk of a
life-threatening allergic reaction, so that we can compare that with,
what, the almost certainty of catching covid from sitting in a room full
of people?
I quick Google finds this...
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7002e1.htm
21 out of 1.8 million. It refers to first doses though.
So far far less than the chance of catching covid and dying from it in a
crowded 'recovery room'....
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Mark Goodge
2021-12-13 16:54:22 UTC
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Post by Tim Ward
Post by GC
Yes, that's the sort of thing I say when I'm vaccinating and someone
asks why there is a waiting period. It is less off-putting to many
people than "a very small risk of a life-threatening allergic
reaction"! Fainting *is* much more common than allergies, especially
in younger age groups, but it isn't the reason for the 15 minute wait
specified in the national protocols.
So, to help us make informed decisions, what's the risk of a
life-threatening allergic reaction, so that we can compare that with,
what, the almost certainty of catching covid from sitting in a room full
of people?
I didn't catch Covid on any of the times I spent in a waiting room after
my vaccinations. I don't, personally, know anybody who has.

Mark
The Natural Philosopher
2021-12-13 17:29:26 UTC
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Post by Mark Goodge
Post by Tim Ward
Post by GC
Yes, that's the sort of thing I say when I'm vaccinating and someone
asks why there is a waiting period. It is less off-putting to many
people than "a very small risk of a life-threatening allergic
reaction"! Fainting *is* much more common than allergies, especially
in younger age groups, but it isn't the reason for the 15 minute wait
specified in the national protocols.
So, to help us make informed decisions, what's the risk of a
life-threatening allergic reaction, so that we can compare that with,
what, the almost certainty of catching covid from sitting in a room full
of people?
I didn't catch Covid on any of the times I spent in a waiting room after
my vaccinations. I don't, personally, know anybody who has.
Mark
Well *every* time I used to go to the GP surgery I would come back with
some bug.

I am not interested in even a cold thank you.
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Mark Carroll
2021-12-13 16:54:28 UTC
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On 13 Dec 2021, Tim Ward wrote:
(snip)
Post by Tim Ward
So, to help us make informed decisions, what's the risk of a
life-threatening allergic reaction, so that we can compare that with,
what, the almost certainty of catching covid from sitting in a room full
of people?
(snip)

At my workplace, they've now given many thousands of vaccinations and,
last I heard, seen no serious anaphylactic reactions whatsoever.

They do have us wait the fifteen minutes but sat masked in distanced
chairs in a room designed for large trucks to be in: very high ceiling,
large bay doors that are kept somewhat open (so for my booster I brought
my wool coat for the wait).

Good luck with finding somewhere that allows a wait somewhere that does
not feel a very bad idea, your concern sounds most reasonable to me.

-- Mark
Tim Ward
2021-12-13 20:18:23 UTC
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Ministers are expected to agree to this soon.
As if I GAS what ministers agree to. I will make my own decision, as
informed as I can get, but I don't see this ******* government as a
source of information.
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Tim Ward
2021-12-14 16:51:10 UTC
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So, outside people were queuing several feet apart in a reasonable fashion.

But when I got to the door I discovered that I was expected to join a
long indoor queue of people crammed inches part into a small space. They
refused to let me wait outside and call me when it was my turn.

As that would have been, by orders of magnitude, my worst covid exposure
risk since this all started, I left.

Any recommendations for a safe place to get vaccinated in Cambridge, if
one hasn't had an invitation to a GP's surgery (which is what's worked
fine for me so far)?
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Tim Ward
2021-12-14 17:43:51 UTC
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Have you tried yours, especially with your issues re queuing?  They
might understand.
Last time I called the surgery (about something else) the recorded
message said "don't call us about covid". I guess I could try again as
that was some time ago.
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Roland Perry
2021-12-14 17:56:37 UTC
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Post by Tim Ward
Have you tried yours, especially with your issues re queuing?  They
might understand.
Last time I called the surgery (about something else) the recorded
message said "don't call us about covid". I guess I could try again as
that was some time ago.
My surgery has wall-to-wall websites and social media presence saying
"DON'T CALL US ABOUT COVID JABS!!!"

They don't even administer such jabs themselves at the surgery, but have
outsourced that to a couple of practices in other parts of the district.
Perhaps they in return do site visits to places like care homes, and the
housebound, but I'm unsighted about this.
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Roland Perry
Alan Jones
2021-12-14 18:42:01 UTC
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Post by Tim Ward
So, outside people were queuing several feet apart in a reasonable fashion.
But when I got to the door I discovered that I was expected to join a
long indoor queue of people crammed inches part into a small space. They
refused to let me wait outside and call me when it was my turn.
As that would have been, by orders of magnitude, my worst covid exposure
risk since this all started, I left.
Any recommendations for a safe place to get vaccinated in Cambridge, if
one hasn't had an invitation to a GP's surgery (which is what's worked
fine for me so far)?
At Chesterton Indoor Bowls Club, the outside queue was well distanced
(1.5m +), and inside, the queue consisted of hopping from one 2m
distanced chair to another. Not a bad solution. The venue is a large
open indoor space.

After jab, you were asked to sit for 15min on 2m+ distanced chairs on
the exit side, but I don't suppose the police will be called if you just
leave unobtrusively.

Good luck.
Alan Jones
2021-12-14 19:52:35 UTC
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Post by Alan Jones
At Chesterton Indoor Bowls Club, the outside queue was well distanced
(1.5m +),
Same there today.
Post by Alan Jones
and inside, the queue consisted of hopping from one 2m distanced chair
to another.
Not like that today. The queue was lots of people standing inches from
each other.
Post by Alan Jones
Not a bad solution.
It was different today.
That's very sad. I went on 4th November and the chairs were all along
one wall with several metres free to the bowling green edge.

That meant (a) that everyone in the indoor queue was reasonably
distanced, and (b) the infirm did not have to stand while they waited.
One especially frail couple were invited to sit in a separate space so
that they didn't keep chair-hopping and could stay close together.

They were really careful about marshalling people in and out so that you
didn't come near anyone else at any point. It made it hard to talk to
our friend that we met in the queue!

Alan Jones.
Alan
2021-12-14 21:14:18 UTC
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Post by Alan Jones
Post by Alan Jones
At Chesterton Indoor Bowls Club, the outside queue was well distanced
(1.5m +),
Same there today.
Post by Alan Jones
and inside, the queue consisted of hopping from one 2m distanced chair
to another.
Not like that today. The queue was lots of people standing inches from
each other.
Post by Alan Jones
Not a bad solution.
It was different today.
That's very sad. I went on 4th November and the chairs were all along
one wall with several metres free to the bowling green edge.
That meant (a) that everyone in the indoor queue was reasonably
distanced, and (b) the infirm did not have to stand while they waited.
One especially frail couple were invited to sit in a separate space so
that they didn't keep chair-hopping and could stay close together.
They were really careful about marshalling people in and out so that you
didn't come near anyone else at any point. It made it hard to talk to
our friend that we met in the queue!
That's how I found Chesterton a month ago. Very spacious, and very well
organised. And for the time poor, no-one was worried whether you remained
for 15 minutes or not.

I was in and out in 25 minutes, including a 15 minute "monitor".
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Alan
2021-12-14 21:16:43 UTC
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On Tue, 14 Dec 2021 21:14:18 -0000, Alan
Post by Alan
Post by Alan Jones
Post by Alan Jones
At Chesterton Indoor Bowls Club, the outside queue was well distanced
(1.5m +),
Same there today.
Post by Alan Jones
and inside, the queue consisted of hopping from one 2m distanced
chair to another.
Not like that today. The queue was lots of people standing inches from
each other.
Post by Alan Jones
Not a bad solution.
It was different today.
That's very sad. I went on 4th November and the chairs were all along
one wall with several metres free to the bowling green edge.
That meant (a) that everyone in the indoor queue was reasonably
distanced, and (b) the infirm did not have to stand while they waited.
One especially frail couple were invited to sit in a separate space so
that they didn't keep chair-hopping and could stay close together.
They were really careful about marshalling people in and out so that
you didn't come near anyone else at any point. It made it hard to talk
to our friend that we met in the queue!
That's how I found Chesterton a month ago. Very spacious, and very well
organised. And for the time poor, no-one was worried whether you
remained for 15 minutes or not.
I was in and out in 25 minutes, including a 15 minute "monitor".
Following up on myself, my first two jabs were at Royal Papworth, and they
too were incredibly well organised with plenty of spacing.
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Tim Ward
2021-12-14 21:27:18 UTC
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Post by Alan
Following up on myself, my first two jabs were at Royal Papworth, and
they too were incredibly well organised with plenty of spacing.
The best I've had was last year's flu - queuing outside, not that there
was a queue, and around 90 seconds spent indoors with all the doors open.
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The Natural Philosopher
2021-12-15 07:56:59 UTC
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Post by Tim Ward
Post by Alan
Following up on myself, my first two jabs were at Royal Papworth, and
they too were incredibly well organised with plenty of spacing.
The best I've had was last year's flu - queuing outside, not that there
was a queue, and around 90 seconds spent indoors with all the doors open.
Definitely my best ever was first two at Newmarket Race course - they
booked a whole conference centrer., Huge and wonderful views of the
course. Parking utterly trivial.

We queued inside, 2 meters apart.
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authorities are wrong.”

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The Natural Philosopher
2021-12-15 07:53:55 UTC
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Post by Alan Jones
Post by Tim Ward
So, outside people were queuing several feet apart in a reasonable fashion.
But when I got to the door I discovered that I was expected to join a
long indoor queue of people crammed inches part into a small space.
They refused to let me wait outside and call me when it was my turn.
As that would have been, by orders of magnitude, my worst covid
exposure risk since this all started, I left.
Any recommendations for a safe place to get vaccinated in Cambridge,
if one hasn't had an invitation to a GP's surgery (which is what's
worked fine for me so far)?
At Chesterton Indoor Bowls Club, the outside queue was well distanced
(1.5m +), and inside, the queue consisted of hopping from one 2m
distanced chair to another. Not a bad solution. The venue is a large
open indoor space.
After jab, you were asked to sit for 15min on 2m+ distanced chairs on
the exit side, but I don't suppose the police will be called if you just
leave unobtrusively.
Good luck.
Silly woman tried to stop me leaving prematurely. I just said 'its my
decision' and walked out.

I have not bothered to wait out any of my jabs.
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Tim Ward
2021-12-15 00:24:18 UTC
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Any recommendations for a safe place to get vaccinated in Cambridge?
Wouldn't let me rebook until the next day, so waited up until midnight.
No other options in Cambridge (apart from bowls club and Grafton, which
I've been told is just as bad) so booked Huntingdon in the middle of
January.
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Fevric J. Glandules
2021-12-13 16:54:40 UTC
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I got my jab at the Grafton on Tuesday by simply walking up, but it may
be that I was lucky with the timing. At about 11:00 am there was about
10 people ahead of my in the 'grab-a-jab' queue, which was interleaved
with a similar amount of people in the appointments line. That esulted
You saying there's actually two queues?

How the hell are you supposed to know that?!
in about 15 minutes wait time, 5-10 processing time and 15 minutes to
wait before leaving, so done before noon.
Chris Forecast
2021-12-11 17:01:19 UTC
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Post by Fevric J. Glandules
So I left. Will rebook. Is there anywhere central without massive
queues? Why the queues, anyway? Are they taking walk-ups as well
as people with booked appointments?
According to: https://www.thevaccinators.co.uk/

"We are not currently offering boosters on a walk-in basis. This is to
ensure that as many eligible people as possible can access boosters in a
planned and managed way. Please book your booster via
www.nhs.uk/covidvaccine or by calling 119."

Chris Forecast
Brian Morrison
2021-12-14 14:38:08 UTC
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On Mon, 13 Dec 2021 22:22:01 -0000 (UTC)
Post by Chris Forecast
"We are not currently offering boosters on a walk-in basis. This is to
ensure that as many eligible people as possible can access boosters in a
But they *are* doing first and second for walk-ups.
You don't think that there is any thought and planning behind all this
do you? $22 a dose, all into Pfizer's future fines fund.
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Alan Jones
2021-12-14 15:44:41 UTC
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Post by Brian Morrison
On Mon, 13 Dec 2021 22:22:01 -0000 (UTC)
Post by Chris Forecast
"We are not currently offering boosters on a walk-in basis. This is to
ensure that as many eligible people as possible can access boosters in a
But they *are* doing first and second for walk-ups.
You don't think that there is any thought and planning behind all this
do you? $22 a dose, all into Pfizer's future fines fund.
There may be a little thought behind it (:-)

Some centres that offered walk-in for boosters experienced increasing
delays because of the variable unbooked demand. This happened many weeks
ago (Oct/Nov). So centres like Chesterton Indoor Bowls Club only did
boosters that were pre-booked.

Chesterton did do walk-in for first and second jabs though, because most
people who needed them had already been done. So the few people wanting
them as walk-ins could easily be accommodated in the same queue as the
booked appointments for boosters without accumulating excessive delay.

It all worked very well there, except for the NHS website that wrongly
sent walk-ins for boosters to Chesterton until it was corrected on
November 7th.
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